'Honestly, the concept to me is hideous. Because love is so conditional. At least, this is how I experience it. We don't talk much about the outer-world influence on 4s, and how...
So....after the LONG journey into typology, personal therapy, and academic/intellectual exploration I am pretty confident that I am an IEE, not SEE (some kind of Fi-subtype, although, I have not...
Red Magician Well, I've never believed in a single truth, but I do think it is important to understand and honour the subjective truth of the individual. However, the way I see it is that...
Me. ^_^ Seriously, aren't they just extensions of evolutionary and biological maps of human development?
Sorry for being scattered! No, it's not a different persona, it's actually a split-off part of personality/identity. To try and explain..... The human mind is pretty awesome. With dissociation,...
@Lord Fenix Wulfheart Sorry, I don't come on PerC often (only when I am in certain moods!) I just want to say that what you said about multiplicity is very interesting and I agree! In fact, a...
It is absurd. But why? The obvious in now a novelty? What is this world?
My husband (INTJ) found this soo funny. Every time I say kitkat in a cone, he pisses himself, lol. I don't understand it but I do love it. Kit Kat Ice Cream Cone is Seriously Just a Kit Kat...
I forgive you. Sort of. Kind of. This will be as good as it gets.
So, many people have settled on their enneagram type. Some haven't. It's all gravy. :crazy: Let's talk about the NEXT option. Let's explore that....it might be interesting? P.s. - I'm really...
You ask whatever you want. :) To clarify, I have not been diagnosed with DID, but I have been 'labelled as suffering from DDNOS, which may have changed it's name recently to OSDD-1 (I think). I...
I should also talk about the fact that I have a dissociative organisation of personality, which is quite common for people with history of trauma. In simple terms, in means that I don't have a...
For me, every model is just another tool in my arsenal. I don't believe that one way of viewing life is more superior to another. It's just a different fragment of perception and understanding. ...
My heart is overflowing, full of rage and sadness. the Grenfell tower tragedy strikes close to my heart. I spent the last two hours panicking about my fucking brother who lived there, only to be...
I haven't, I'm afraid, I don't like those questionnaires! I'm a practising therapist and I would like to get get to the nitty gritty of things (when I say that in my British accent it sounds very...
I am really interested in discussing my type right now. I have been in therapy for the past year and think it will be an interesting angle to bring to the self-typing process. I don't expect...
can I go back to Kintsugi please
I'm a therapist and I feel there are different levels that I work with people. For example, some people come to me and they have a specific problem they want to work on. We can use cognitive tools...
For me, Enneagram is one of many tools that may be utilised in the process of self discovery/knowledge (I make the distinction here between the humanist's belief in the inherent goodness of humanity...
Don't let the number be a guide. You are stronger and more powerful than you realise. Don't get stuck on this number. It's just a concept. It's a way we make sense of existence. Taking it...
idk, 4 or 5?
Sx being VERY sexual is a new and interesting concept to me! I was always told that it was about intensity and that confused me because I am extremely intense and, whist being typed sx-first by many...
Ahh the conversations in this thread feel nostalgic. In a good way. ;)
Unfortunately it is! It's a manifestation of spiritual bypassing, I believe. Seems more prevalent these days, perhaps because things like yoga and new-age self-help quick-fixes are all the range.
I guess when I use the term ego I am thinking about self-concept. Almost like a self-ideology, if you will. I don't think ego is a bad thing, I completely disagree with the idea that in order to...
Interesting. I relate to the push/pull aspect but I'm not sure what my instincts are, lol. I suspect that contra-flow makes more sense for me but I've only really just started taking instincts...
Another thought, I think trauma reactions can often look and be mistaken for reactive types when viewed through the lens of Enneagram. That said, perhaps there is a conversation to be had about...
Interesting. Does this mean contraflow types are more likely to feel internally conflicted in some way?
Yes, definitely. I'm currently in therapy and working on overcoming my own issues related to complex trauma and I have found that it has complicated my typing process. I've recently only started...
I've become an instinctual-stacking whore. I feel like there is so much difference within type, with regards instinctual stacking. Yes, philosophically, I understand that the number is meant to...
Enneagram is an interesting map of an aspect of reality. But it is just a map. The map is definitely not the territory.
One thing I would ask is how much trauma have you experienced in your life? Sometimes, we protect against trauma through numbing (dissociation), and this can lead to impulsive and intensity seeking...
Alex the Kid
Well, anger is emotion/feeling.
You can be in denial and still think the world is full of evil. 8 is driven by anger, and something has to be driving that anger in the first place. They aren't apathetic like 9s.
the rest seem good
I would have thought the 8 response would be more intense/passionate (reactive type). 8 is about feeling as though the world has done you wrong, it's a very vindictive type and reactive type....
Ask me questions, etc. This seems interesting.
Se
well, Pink is xSFP before she is anything else. I have seen arguments for 4 and 8. But all I see is the Se/Fi in some order.
Cinton is just....hmmm. Well, she's a liar. Don't get me wrong. I ain't no Trump supporter, lol. I think they all got issues that run deeper than typology.
There are similar patterns, sure. I don't think it's helpful to compare the types.
Stereotypes work from a disconnected and broad-view sense, sure. You'll probably find that that when you start to get to know someone personally and intimately, that stereotypes fly out the...
Donald Trump seems to have what we call a personality disorder which makes it hard to type him.
For fun... 1. The righteous 2. The desperate 3. The mask/charlatan 4. The abandoned/alienated
Well, of course. You put anyone in any box and you fall prey to bigotry (c'est la vie). Calling someone a bigot is an interesting thing. What is bigotry? To me, it's about the inability to...
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Putting emotions aside to get the job done.
Listen... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tJipvjt4w4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEZxnAwbYbw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaB-bkAWNfA
Not a picture, a song (sorry!) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg90Okk0fhw'
